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		<title>By: Al_Pal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al_Pal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 11:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Fascinating and heavy stuff.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I have a friend who works with autistic kids and said one of the boys he worked with was the nicest person he&#039;d ever met.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m guessing your baby turned out fine since I&#039;ve not seen more on this topic!  :P&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Guess I&#039;ll have to take a peek at the archives.  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Fascinating and heavy stuff.</p>
<p>I have a friend who works with autistic kids and said one of the boys he worked with was the nicest person he&#8217;d ever met.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m guessing your baby turned out fine since I&#8217;ve not seen more on this topic!  <img src='http://herbadmother.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Guess I&#8217;ll have to take a peek at the archives.  <img src='http://herbadmother.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ozma</title>
		<link>http://herbadmother.com/2007/11/no-matter-what/comment-page-3/#comment-14379</link>
		<dc:creator>ozma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 03:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t handle uncertainty. I haven&#039;t been in this situation before. But if I was, I would get every test that was not an amnio, CVS or anything invasive. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I hope it will turn out OK. I agree with the person who said don&#039;t listen to people. They will project their own fears or desires or wishes or ideas upon you and nothing they say will be useful to you because they are not you. So I would stay away from experts and information until the baby comes and if you need stuff to help the baby, help the baby. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That&#039;s my projecting. When uncertain, I seek out information and then I just interpret everything as bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t handle uncertainty. I haven&#8217;t been in this situation before. But if I was, I would get every test that was not an amnio, CVS or anything invasive. </p>
<p>I hope it will turn out OK. I agree with the person who said don&#8217;t listen to people. They will project their own fears or desires or wishes or ideas upon you and nothing they say will be useful to you because they are not you. So I would stay away from experts and information until the baby comes and if you need stuff to help the baby, help the baby. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s my projecting. When uncertain, I seek out information and then I just interpret everything as bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily Clasper</title>
		<link>http://herbadmother.com/2007/11/no-matter-what/comment-page-3/#comment-14377</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily Clasper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 07:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You sound just like me about two years ago. When we were faced with the same choice, it was devastating. In the end, we also came to rely on the phrase &quot;no matter what.&quot; We were going to love the baby and do our best by him no matter what. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;For us, that meant not doing any further testing. We decided that if the baby had Downs, then we&#039;d handle it. It was actually a load off of our minds to come to that conclusion, and I was relieved to be able to just sort of let go and let whatever was going to happen happen. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We definitely grappled (and still do) with the idea that maybe all of these tests aren&#039;t so helpful after all... would it have been better to just not know? Of course there is no answer to that one, and if I were pregnant again, I don&#039;t know... maybe I&#039;d still have all the same tests. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Whatever the decision you make as far as testing goes, I know it will be the right thing for you. Hang in there... it&#039;s so hard!!!!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;BTW, my son is fine after all that.  That was a relief, but by the time he was born and we knew for sure, we were pretty comfortable with the idea that we might have a disabled child to love. We knew we could handle it... no matter what.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You sound just like me about two years ago. When we were faced with the same choice, it was devastating. In the end, we also came to rely on the phrase &#8220;no matter what.&#8221; We were going to love the baby and do our best by him no matter what. </p>
<p>For us, that meant not doing any further testing. We decided that if the baby had Downs, then we&#8217;d handle it. It was actually a load off of our minds to come to that conclusion, and I was relieved to be able to just sort of let go and let whatever was going to happen happen. </p>
<p>We definitely grappled (and still do) with the idea that maybe all of these tests aren&#8217;t so helpful after all&#8230; would it have been better to just not know? Of course there is no answer to that one, and if I were pregnant again, I don&#8217;t know&#8230; maybe I&#8217;d still have all the same tests. </p>
<p>Whatever the decision you make as far as testing goes, I know it will be the right thing for you. Hang in there&#8230; it&#8217;s so hard!!!!</p>
<p>BTW, my son is fine after all that.  That was a relief, but by the time he was born and we knew for sure, we were pretty comfortable with the idea that we might have a disabled child to love. We knew we could handle it&#8230; no matter what.</p>
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		<title>By: Special Needs Mama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Special Needs Mama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 22:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Full disclaimer:  I have a multiply disabled son who was born very prematurely (23 weeks).  I did have an amnio, and I would have terminated if there had been an anomaly.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Now, my world is full of kids with disabilities, including Down syndrome.  I agree with everyone who says, if you are not willing to terminate, don&#039;t do the amnio.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I also strongly suggest reading up on Down&#039;s.  There are great blogs on the subject, those that talk about spirituality, but those that also talk about the challenges.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There is no right or wrong here.  There is only you and your family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Full disclaimer:  I have a multiply disabled son who was born very prematurely (23 weeks).  I did have an amnio, and I would have terminated if there had been an anomaly.</p>
<p>Now, my world is full of kids with disabilities, including Down syndrome.  I agree with everyone who says, if you are not willing to terminate, don&#8217;t do the amnio.</p>
<p>I also strongly suggest reading up on Down&#8217;s.  There are great blogs on the subject, those that talk about spirituality, but those that also talk about the challenges.</p>
<p>There is no right or wrong here.  There is only you and your family.</p>
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		<title>By: whymommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>whymommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 07:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no advice.  All I have for you are prayers.  But you have those, and you will have those every day until Thursday and thereafter, because this IS hard.  Even if you&#039;ve already made the decision nomatterwhat.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My heart goes out to you, Catherine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no advice.  All I have for you are prayers.  But you have those, and you will have those every day until Thursday and thereafter, because this IS hard.  Even if you&#8217;ve already made the decision nomatterwhat.</p>
<p>My heart goes out to you, Catherine.</p>
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		<title>By: Irene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, the chance that something is wrong with your baby is really small.  So, hard as it is, keep the faith.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Second, I went through a similar thing.  But my u/s had MANY findings and I had an amnio then and there because, like you, I HAD to know.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My daughter did have a rare chromosome disorder, but looking back, I wish I didn&#039;t know beforehand.  If you aren&#039;t going to end the pregnancy, it can often make your pregnancy miserable.  We were given so much doom and gloom (your baby will NEVER make it to term, she will definitely not live live long after birth, she will definitely need extensive heart surgery IF she survives, she will never EVER make it to one year.  Well, they were right about the chromosome disorder, but wrong about a lot.  She is 4 1/2.  She has never had heart surgery.  She is definitely severely disabled, but she is so sweet not even close to the &quot;vegetable&quot; they predicted she would be.  I thought I could never ever handle such a child, but I did and I do.  It can be hard, my other children can often be just as challenging.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Take care, don&#039;t let the &quot;experts&quot; scare you too much (they know so much less than you think!) and keep the faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, the chance that something is wrong with your baby is really small.  So, hard as it is, keep the faith.</p>
<p>Second, I went through a similar thing.  But my u/s had MANY findings and I had an amnio then and there because, like you, I HAD to know.</p>
<p>My daughter did have a rare chromosome disorder, but looking back, I wish I didn&#8217;t know beforehand.  If you aren&#8217;t going to end the pregnancy, it can often make your pregnancy miserable.  We were given so much doom and gloom (your baby will NEVER make it to term, she will definitely not live live long after birth, she will definitely need extensive heart surgery IF she survives, she will never EVER make it to one year.  Well, they were right about the chromosome disorder, but wrong about a lot.  She is 4 1/2.  She has never had heart surgery.  She is definitely severely disabled, but she is so sweet not even close to the &#8220;vegetable&#8221; they predicted she would be.  I thought I could never ever handle such a child, but I did and I do.  It can be hard, my other children can often be just as challenging.</p>
<p>Take care, don&#8217;t let the &#8220;experts&#8221; scare you too much (they know so much less than you think!) and keep the faith.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 14:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We were told with my last pregnancy that we had a 1 in 36 chance of Down Syndrome.  Like you, we came to the conclusion that we were having this baby no matter what, so we opted not to do the amnio, and instead find out what we could from the Level 2 ultrasound.  They never did find any markers. After months of worry, when our little boy was finally delivered (by a doctor from our practice who had only seen me one other time) my frantic questions about his health were met with a blank stare and a baffled &quot;What are you talking about?  Was he supposed to have Down&#039;s?  This baby is fine!&quot;  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;  Kind of anticlimactic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We were told with my last pregnancy that we had a 1 in 36 chance of Down Syndrome.  Like you, we came to the conclusion that we were having this baby no matter what, so we opted not to do the amnio, and instead find out what we could from the Level 2 ultrasound.  They never did find any markers. After months of worry, when our little boy was finally delivered (by a doctor from our practice who had only seen me one other time) my frantic questions about his health were met with a blank stare and a baffled &#8220;What are you talking about?  Was he supposed to have Down&#8217;s?  This baby is fine!&#8221;  </p>
<p>  Kind of anticlimactic.</p>
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		<title>By: mo-wo</title>
		<link>http://herbadmother.com/2007/11/no-matter-what/comment-page-3/#comment-14306</link>
		<dc:creator>mo-wo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 21:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When we faced questions about CPC&#039;s (cysts) -- I had the amnio.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It did not hurt... Was, I think, sort of akin to acupuncture sized needle.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It helped me a lot.  Helped me go into my birth process without some programmed urge to inspect the baby for &#039;abnormality&#039;.  It helped me plan my maternity leave expectations and it helped me progress/process information about &#039;the baby&#039; with my little girl soon to be big sister.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I needed the information.  Pass/Fail.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We understood many of the things you&#039;ve said in your posts.  Ours sat in draft for so long but they faded away under the delete.  You have an amazing readership, don&#039;t you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When we faced questions about CPC&#8217;s (cysts) &#8212; I had the amnio.</p>
<p>It did not hurt&#8230; Was, I think, sort of akin to acupuncture sized needle.</p>
<p>It helped me a lot.  Helped me go into my birth process without some programmed urge to inspect the baby for &#8216;abnormality&#8217;.  It helped me plan my maternity leave expectations and it helped me progress/process information about &#8216;the baby&#8217; with my little girl soon to be big sister.</p>
<p>I needed the information.  Pass/Fail.</p>
<p>We understood many of the things you&#8217;ve said in your posts.  Ours sat in draft for so long but they faded away under the delete.  You have an amazing readership, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
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		<title>By: cathy</title>
		<link>http://herbadmother.com/2007/11/no-matter-what/comment-page-3/#comment-14305</link>
		<dc:creator>cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, HBM, your post was heart wrenching today!  I was where you are 2 years ago when pregnant with my beautiful daughter (who does NOT have Down Syndrome).  The tests ARE scary.  I don&#039;t know what your numbers are, but DO try to remember that it is just a risk assessment.  I hate when doctor&#039;s say that your test was positive - it only gives the odds that something will happen.  Even if your risk of having a Down baby is 1 in 10, that still means you have a 90% chance of having a perfectly chromosomally normal child!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I chose to not have an amnio, and though I&#039;m still happy with my decision I was uneasy the rest of my pregnancy.  I couldn&#039;t handle the risk of miscarraige or harming the baby that inherently comes with an amnio, even though those risks are very small.  It&#039;s a hard, personal decision, but if you will be miserable the rest of your pregnancy not knowing, you should consider having an amnio.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Good luck!  I know it&#039;s hard, but you can handle whatever comes your way!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, HBM, your post was heart wrenching today!  I was where you are 2 years ago when pregnant with my beautiful daughter (who does NOT have Down Syndrome).  The tests ARE scary.  I don&#8217;t know what your numbers are, but DO try to remember that it is just a risk assessment.  I hate when doctor&#8217;s say that your test was positive &#8211; it only gives the odds that something will happen.  Even if your risk of having a Down baby is 1 in 10, that still means you have a 90% chance of having a perfectly chromosomally normal child!</p>
<p>I chose to not have an amnio, and though I&#8217;m still happy with my decision I was uneasy the rest of my pregnancy.  I couldn&#8217;t handle the risk of miscarraige or harming the baby that inherently comes with an amnio, even though those risks are very small.  It&#8217;s a hard, personal decision, but if you will be miserable the rest of your pregnancy not knowing, you should consider having an amnio.</p>
<p>Good luck!  I know it&#8217;s hard, but you can handle whatever comes your way!</p>
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		<title>By: deb</title>
		<link>http://herbadmother.com/2007/11/no-matter-what/comment-page-3/#comment-14304</link>
		<dc:creator>deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 19:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless you&#039;re willing to have an abortion I wouldn&#039;t have the amino, it is a test that has risks attached to it.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As for your baby, Down syndrome or not, you will love him or her, no matter what.  A special needs child is not the end of the world, it does alter your world, forever, but I get so much from my daughter, I can&#039;t imagine my life without her.  She opened my heart in a way my other two children never did.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;What ever happens, I wish you well.  Take care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless you&#8217;re willing to have an abortion I wouldn&#8217;t have the amino, it is a test that has risks attached to it.</p>
<p>As for your baby, Down syndrome or not, you will love him or her, no matter what.  A special needs child is not the end of the world, it does alter your world, forever, but I get so much from my daughter, I can&#8217;t imagine my life without her.  She opened my heart in a way my other two children never did.</p>
<p>What ever happens, I wish you well.  Take care.</p>
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