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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://herbadmother.com/2009/05/no-money-changes-everything/comment-page-4/#comment-29064</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 14:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being thankful you have a roof over your head doesn&#039;t mean you can&#039;t also feel a little down at having to try to explain to your daughter why things can&#039;t be exactly how we&#039;d like them to.  Thank you for posting.  Sometimes I think we all suffer in silence, thinking others will think less of us if we admit to not having it all under control.  I don&#039;t think that&#039;s true.  I know that for me, personally, it sure helps knowing I&#039;m not alone in trying to tighten the belt just a little bit more, and a little bit more, and praying daily that we can make ends meet just one more month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being thankful you have a roof over your head doesn&#39;t mean you can&#39;t also feel a little down at having to try to explain to your daughter why things can&#39;t be exactly how we&#39;d like them to.  Thank you for posting.  Sometimes I think we all suffer in silence, thinking others will think less of us if we admit to not having it all under control.  I don&#39;t think that&#39;s true.  I know that for me, personally, it sure helps knowing I&#39;m not alone in trying to tighten the belt just a little bit more, and a little bit more, and praying daily that we can make ends meet just one more month.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://herbadmother.com/2009/05/no-money-changes-everything/comment-page-4/#comment-29060</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 03:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My children&#039;s father divorced us all when the kids were 4,5, and 7. It was up to me to provide everything for them after that. I never told them fairy tales--they all knew just how much money we had, what we had to pay with it, and if there was anything left after the bills were paid, they could have a treat. Even at 4, my youngest daughter understood the concept that there had to be money in the bank to pay the bills. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We all struggled through, they grew up knowing how to budget and how to save. They are in their 30&#039;s now. They learned early in life that not everyone can have everything they want. That if they save their money they can get something extra. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I don&#039;t think it is shameful for kids to know you don&#039;t have enough. On the contrary, they need to know that sometimes you don&#039;t have enough. Knowing that prepares them for the real world much better than telling them that everything will be alright all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My children&#39;s father divorced us all when the kids were 4,5, and 7. It was up to me to provide everything for them after that. I never told them fairy tales&#8211;they all knew just how much money we had, what we had to pay with it, and if there was anything left after the bills were paid, they could have a treat. Even at 4, my youngest daughter understood the concept that there had to be money in the bank to pay the bills. </p>
<p>We all struggled through, they grew up knowing how to budget and how to save. They are in their 30&#39;s now. They learned early in life that not everyone can have everything they want. That if they save their money they can get something extra. </p>
<p> I don&#39;t think it is shameful for kids to know you don&#39;t have enough. On the contrary, they need to know that sometimes you don&#39;t have enough. Knowing that prepares them for the real world much better than telling them that everything will be alright all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: chermonblie</title>
		<link>http://herbadmother.com/2009/05/no-money-changes-everything/comment-page-4/#comment-29014</link>
		<dc:creator>chermonblie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 21:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re there too. My husband was unemployed for 8 months and is now going to work... but not making anything - commission is rough when there are no customers. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So... I am learning to cook inexpensive meals, making our own laundry soap, really enjoying the one Saturday a month when the grandparents come out and bring us a cooler full of food, doing without tv, sewing from my stash instead of buying new. It&#039;ll get better... but I&#039;m hoping my new found frugality sticks around!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re there too. My husband was unemployed for 8 months and is now going to work&#8230; but not making anything &#8211; commission is rough when there are no customers. </p>
<p>So&#8230; I am learning to cook inexpensive meals, making our own laundry soap, really enjoying the one Saturday a month when the grandparents come out and bring us a cooler full of food, doing without tv, sewing from my stash instead of buying new. It&#8217;ll get better&#8230; but I&#8217;m hoping my new found frugality sticks around!</p>
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		<title>By: the weirdgirl</title>
		<link>http://herbadmother.com/2009/05/no-money-changes-everything/comment-page-4/#comment-29010</link>
		<dc:creator>the weirdgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 05:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m another one who grew up without a whole lot of money. We were what is called &quot;house rich, cash poor&quot;. That meant thrift store clothes and powdered milk and no extra anything and so on. I went to a day camp one year but I suspect it was some freebie program for &quot;those who qualified&quot;. We never went on vacations like other people did; just lots of camping. I started babysitting really early so I could buy my OWN thrift store clothes. It went on for YEARS. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But you know what? I&#039;m actually proud of the person I&#039;ve become because of those lean years. I have a very strong work ethic, I don&#039;t take money for granted, I&#039;m resourceful, and I&#039;m very aware of the difference between when you can&#039;t help your financial situation and when you&#039;re making bad choices. I don&#039;t see any shame in being in tough financial quarters; it just happens sometimes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I know it&#039;s really hard. You&#039;re not only worrying about how to make it through, you&#039;re probably worrying about how it will affect Emilia emotionally. My advice is to try to be as matter of fact as possible about it with your daughter. I&#039;ve been there and I can tell you the worry won&#039;t go away. But it seems to me that the shame gets all tied up with the self-worth of owning stuff and that&#039;s... just not a good path for kids to go down.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Emilia will be fine. And you&#039;ll feel better - still worried, but better - if you can drop the shame. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m another one who grew up without a whole lot of money. We were what is called &#8220;house rich, cash poor&#8221;. That meant thrift store clothes and powdered milk and no extra anything and so on. I went to a day camp one year but I suspect it was some freebie program for &#8220;those who qualified&#8221;. We never went on vacations like other people did; just lots of camping. I started babysitting really early so I could buy my OWN thrift store clothes. It went on for YEARS. </p>
<p>But you know what? I&#8217;m actually proud of the person I&#8217;ve become because of those lean years. I have a very strong work ethic, I don&#8217;t take money for granted, I&#8217;m resourceful, and I&#8217;m very aware of the difference between when you can&#8217;t help your financial situation and when you&#8217;re making bad choices. I don&#8217;t see any shame in being in tough financial quarters; it just happens sometimes.</p>
<p>I know it&#8217;s really hard. You&#8217;re not only worrying about how to make it through, you&#8217;re probably worrying about how it will affect Emilia emotionally. My advice is to try to be as matter of fact as possible about it with your daughter. I&#8217;ve been there and I can tell you the worry won&#8217;t go away. But it seems to me that the shame gets all tied up with the self-worth of owning stuff and that&#8217;s&#8230; just not a good path for kids to go down.  </p>
<p>Emilia will be fine. And you&#8217;ll feel better &#8211; still worried, but better &#8211; if you can drop the shame. </p>
<p>Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Booba Juice</title>
		<link>http://herbadmother.com/2009/05/no-money-changes-everything/comment-page-4/#comment-29008</link>
		<dc:creator>Booba Juice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 02:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I did not have time tonight to read ever comment, those that I did get to read made my night.  I know that I am not alone, but being able to read stories of others who are in the same spot as my family is heartwarming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Fifteen months ago, my husband got out of the military.  We had thought and discussed long and hard before we made that desion.  We knew that most likely we would not be able to make as much in the civilian world as we did in the military, as my husband wasn&#039;t able to get his degree while active duty.  But ultimately our desire for him to be around more for our family won out on the desire to be better off financially.  (While in the military he spent about 75% of the year away from home.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However now that we are civilians, and out on our own, I miss many things that the military ment for us financially.  For example, while I was never one to go out shopping all the time, I did enjoy being able to get something if I saw it and wanted it.  Now I look at the thing that is on clearence, and think, I wish I had the money to get that.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We are keeping our head above water, but just bearly.  But the thing is, I am learning to be content with less.  And really, it hasn&#039;t been all that bad.  I have enjoyed making eating at home all the time fun, and exciting.  Spending more time playing games with the family at home, not going out to have fun and entertainment.  It has been an adventure.  And while I would welcome an increase in income, I know that we are going to be okay.  I really believe that.  And we just have to do the best with what has been provided to us at this time in our lives, and know that it won&#039;t always be this way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I did not have time tonight to read ever comment, those that I did get to read made my night.  I know that I am not alone, but being able to read stories of others who are in the same spot as my family is heartwarming.</p>
<p>Fifteen months ago, my husband got out of the military.  We had thought and discussed long and hard before we made that desion.  We knew that most likely we would not be able to make as much in the civilian world as we did in the military, as my husband wasn&#8217;t able to get his degree while active duty.  But ultimately our desire for him to be around more for our family won out on the desire to be better off financially.  (While in the military he spent about 75% of the year away from home.)</p>
<p>However now that we are civilians, and out on our own, I miss many things that the military ment for us financially.  For example, while I was never one to go out shopping all the time, I did enjoy being able to get something if I saw it and wanted it.  Now I look at the thing that is on clearence, and think, I wish I had the money to get that.  </p>
<p>We are keeping our head above water, but just bearly.  But the thing is, I am learning to be content with less.  And really, it hasn&#8217;t been all that bad.  I have enjoyed making eating at home all the time fun, and exciting.  Spending more time playing games with the family at home, not going out to have fun and entertainment.  It has been an adventure.  And while I would welcome an increase in income, I know that we are going to be okay.  I really believe that.  And we just have to do the best with what has been provided to us at this time in our lives, and know that it won&#8217;t always be this way.</p>
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		<title>By: Revanche</title>
		<link>http://herbadmother.com/2009/05/no-money-changes-everything/comment-page-4/#comment-28989</link>
		<dc:creator>Revanche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 23:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s no shame in being scared or worrying, it&#039;s natural.  Mine is a bit flipflopped in that I was scared that I couldn&#039;t continue to take care of my family [parents] after the pending layoff.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Something like ten years ago, both of them went through periods after their businesses failed in which they couldn&#039;t hold a job for long, and then my mom&#039;s health went out the door, and I&#039;ve supported them ever since.  Hadn&#039;t ever struck me how completely dependent they were on me until my job loss was imminent.  I still haven&#039;t even told them that I expect to be out of a job in a month because I&#039;m determined to find another way to support them before they have to worry about it. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wondering if you&#039;re going to be able to make ends meet when you&#039;re the sole provider(s) is completely nerve-wracking. But knowing that you can make it, once you get through, is one of the most blessed feelings you can have.  And your daughter will learn, in some small way, to be self-sufficient, creative and resourceful for having this experience in her life, in her family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no shame in being scared or worrying, it&#8217;s natural.  Mine is a bit flipflopped in that I was scared that I couldn&#8217;t continue to take care of my family [parents] after the pending layoff.  </p>
<p>Something like ten years ago, both of them went through periods after their businesses failed in which they couldn&#8217;t hold a job for long, and then my mom&#8217;s health went out the door, and I&#8217;ve supported them ever since.  Hadn&#8217;t ever struck me how completely dependent they were on me until my job loss was imminent.  I still haven&#8217;t even told them that I expect to be out of a job in a month because I&#8217;m determined to find another way to support them before they have to worry about it. </p>
<p>Wondering if you&#8217;re going to be able to make ends meet when you&#8217;re the sole provider(s) is completely nerve-wracking. But knowing that you can make it, once you get through, is one of the most blessed feelings you can have.  And your daughter will learn, in some small way, to be self-sufficient, creative and resourceful for having this experience in her life, in her family.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://herbadmother.com/2009/05/no-money-changes-everything/comment-page-4/#comment-28988</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 21:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IF YOUR CURRENT SITUATION AS YOU DESCRIBED IT SCARES YOU,I WILL PRAY FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY THAT YOU WILL NEVER BE WHERE SO MANY FAMILIES ARE. FORGET THE TRAILER IN THE FOREST,HOW ABOUT NO HOME AT ALL?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IF YOUR CURRENT SITUATION AS YOU DESCRIBED IT SCARES YOU,I WILL PRAY FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY THAT YOU WILL NEVER BE WHERE SO MANY FAMILIES ARE. FORGET THE TRAILER IN THE FOREST,HOW ABOUT NO HOME AT ALL?</p>
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		<title>By: BabyonBored</title>
		<link>http://herbadmother.com/2009/05/no-money-changes-everything/comment-page-4/#comment-28902</link>
		<dc:creator>BabyonBored</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 03:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m always a little late to the comment party on your blog, sister. But here&#039;s my two pennies which may or may not have already been shared. I grew up poor, poor, poor. I couldn&#039;t have a proper haircut or new clothes or any extras for a long long time. When my brother and sister came along 7 and 9 years after me, my mother was bringing in a better income (my stepfather barely ever worked). As an adult, I don&#039;t ever think about being poor or not having had enough. It was plenty that I was loved. I appreciate having things now much much more than if all of it was just a given growing up. I learned sacrifice and I think it&#039;s an important, so so important lesson to pass onto your children. This will pass and all will be well but your kids will be better for it. Take the shame out of your game. You are awesome rich or poor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m always a little late to the comment party on your blog, sister. But here&#8217;s my two pennies which may or may not have already been shared. I grew up poor, poor, poor. I couldn&#8217;t have a proper haircut or new clothes or any extras for a long long time. When my brother and sister came along 7 and 9 years after me, my mother was bringing in a better income (my stepfather barely ever worked). As an adult, I don&#8217;t ever think about being poor or not having had enough. It was plenty that I was loved. I appreciate having things now much much more than if all of it was just a given growing up. I learned sacrifice and I think it&#8217;s an important, so so important lesson to pass onto your children. This will pass and all will be well but your kids will be better for it. Take the shame out of your game. You are awesome rich or poor.</p>
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		<title>By: Miss Know It All</title>
		<link>http://herbadmother.com/2009/05/no-money-changes-everything/comment-page-4/#comment-28887</link>
		<dc:creator>Miss Know It All</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 19:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it was hard to admit - but believe me, I can honestly say &quot;I feel your pain.&quot; My husband is an air craft mechanic. We have a 10 year old son. I work, but DH made substantially more that I do. Did you get that? MADE. As in, no longer makes. He was laid off in November. He was laid off right before our son&#039;s 10th birthday. Christmas and Birthday were already bought and paid for, or it would have been slim. But this year? Not so much. We are making it, but not without sacrifice. And as is always the case...insult can always be added to injury. In March I was diagnosed with breast cancer at the age of 40. I will be fine - double mastectomy, chemo and raidation required - but I will live. I am blessed with a wonderful job - I have short term disability and bosses that are willing to work with me. I can work from home, and I can work when I feel like it. So far, I have not missed one dime in my paycheck. I have great health insurance. But with an unemployed husband, the co-pays are a bitch. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All this while friends are able to spend money like its nothing. See, I have friends with money. Lots. Like, houses in NICE neighborhoods paid for in cash. Friends who love me, but raise an eyebrow while I try to explain I can&#039;t afford a trip to the beach. Or Costa Rica. Or the Bahamas.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, basically, I say all of that to say this: You are not alone. You will provide the best way you know how. You will be the adult and your kids will be fine. There were probably times in our childhood that we dont remember (hopefully) when our parents struggled. But we are fine. And our kids will be fine, stronger in fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it was hard to admit &#8211; but believe me, I can honestly say &#8220;I feel your pain.&#8221; My husband is an air craft mechanic. We have a 10 year old son. I work, but DH made substantially more that I do. Did you get that? MADE. As in, no longer makes. He was laid off in November. He was laid off right before our son&#8217;s 10th birthday. Christmas and Birthday were already bought and paid for, or it would have been slim. But this year? Not so much. We are making it, but not without sacrifice. And as is always the case&#8230;insult can always be added to injury. In March I was diagnosed with breast cancer at the age of 40. I will be fine &#8211; double mastectomy, chemo and raidation required &#8211; but I will live. I am blessed with a wonderful job &#8211; I have short term disability and bosses that are willing to work with me. I can work from home, and I can work when I feel like it. So far, I have not missed one dime in my paycheck. I have great health insurance. But with an unemployed husband, the co-pays are a bitch. </p>
<p>All this while friends are able to spend money like its nothing. See, I have friends with money. Lots. Like, houses in NICE neighborhoods paid for in cash. Friends who love me, but raise an eyebrow while I try to explain I can&#8217;t afford a trip to the beach. Or Costa Rica. Or the Bahamas.</p>
<p>So, basically, I say all of that to say this: You are not alone. You will provide the best way you know how. You will be the adult and your kids will be fine. There were probably times in our childhood that we dont remember (hopefully) when our parents struggled. But we are fine. And our kids will be fine, stronger in fact.</p>
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		<title>By: R</title>
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		<dc:creator>R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 17:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t started selling things just yet (that&#039;s on my TO-Do list: &quot;learn how to sell on eBay or CraigsList&quot; followed closely by &quot;start going through crap and figuring out what we can live without&quot;) but I&#039;m taking things back that I&#039;ve purchased recently... mostly clothes and outfits for the baby girl, but also a few for me... and to top it off that I have no money, and because I have no money (vicious cycle) I&#039;ve managed to max out both of my credit cards... which the hubs just found out... it didn&#039;t go over well... so I&#039;m working full-time outside of the house, taking back purchases, trying to drum up work for my freelance business/side job, and looking for items that we can sell... and hubs - well, he&#039;s not only working full time, but picking up as much overtime as possible at the Sheriff&#039;s Department... which means seeing us less than the 2-3 days a week he sees us regularly... &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We can&#039;t complain really because we both have jobs, we have our health and our beautiful baby girl... we have vehicles... but as far as having extra cash... we don&#039;t. and it&#039;s mostly my fault, of which I am ashamed... hubs works hard and puts money in our savings accounts, pays the majority of the bills, as well as the majority of the necessities around the house, and I... well, I work... and waste money on frivolous things... like outfits that are cute, but Emma won&#039;t wear until NEXT summer... shirts I might wear once or twice after buying them for a wedding... it&#039;s ridiculous....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;so while I&#039;m not on the exact same page as you are, I&#039;m not feeling so proud of myself lately... especially since I had paid one credit card down quite a bit over the past year or so... then managed to put $1500 back on it in just over a month on things we didn&#039;t need... WOW. GREAT IDEA. or not. and now - my minimum payments are both RIDICULOUSLY high. GREAT IDEA #2. or not. so... working on that. and it&#039;s a definite work in progress...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;thinking of you, sending good thoughts and prayers your way... it will get better, and it will be okay... some day... hopefully some day soon...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t started selling things just yet (that&#8217;s on my TO-Do list: &#8220;learn how to sell on eBay or CraigsList&#8221; followed closely by &#8220;start going through crap and figuring out what we can live without&#8221;) but I&#8217;m taking things back that I&#8217;ve purchased recently&#8230; mostly clothes and outfits for the baby girl, but also a few for me&#8230; and to top it off that I have no money, and because I have no money (vicious cycle) I&#8217;ve managed to max out both of my credit cards&#8230; which the hubs just found out&#8230; it didn&#8217;t go over well&#8230; so I&#8217;m working full-time outside of the house, taking back purchases, trying to drum up work for my freelance business/side job, and looking for items that we can sell&#8230; and hubs &#8211; well, he&#8217;s not only working full time, but picking up as much overtime as possible at the Sheriff&#8217;s Department&#8230; which means seeing us less than the 2-3 days a week he sees us regularly&#8230; </p>
<p>We can&#8217;t complain really because we both have jobs, we have our health and our beautiful baby girl&#8230; we have vehicles&#8230; but as far as having extra cash&#8230; we don&#8217;t. and it&#8217;s mostly my fault, of which I am ashamed&#8230; hubs works hard and puts money in our savings accounts, pays the majority of the bills, as well as the majority of the necessities around the house, and I&#8230; well, I work&#8230; and waste money on frivolous things&#8230; like outfits that are cute, but Emma won&#8217;t wear until NEXT summer&#8230; shirts I might wear once or twice after buying them for a wedding&#8230; it&#8217;s ridiculous&#8230;.</p>
<p>so while I&#8217;m not on the exact same page as you are, I&#8217;m not feeling so proud of myself lately&#8230; especially since I had paid one credit card down quite a bit over the past year or so&#8230; then managed to put $1500 back on it in just over a month on things we didn&#8217;t need&#8230; WOW. GREAT IDEA. or not. and now &#8211; my minimum payments are both RIDICULOUSLY high. GREAT IDEA #2. or not. so&#8230; working on that. and it&#8217;s a definite work in progress&#8230;</p>
<p>thinking of you, sending good thoughts and prayers your way&#8230; it will get better, and it will be okay&#8230; some day&#8230; hopefully some day soon&#8230;</p>
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