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		<title>By: Brittany at Mommy Words</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brittany at Mommy Words</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 16:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so torn on this because I am a huge fan of giving the boob when possible and when it is good for the mom and the baby.  I had a terrible time for the first 2-3months breastfeeding both of my babies with severe hyperlactation.  It caused my kids to have an impossible time latching on because they would basically drown in the milk that was spraying them and caused me to have mastitis at least 5 times with each of them.  Whole boob swollen, fever, chills - yep!  Oh and thrush where you have fungus there...nasty.  Oh and I had to weigh them each at every feeding for the first month plus to make sure that the milk was going in them and not on them.

Without support I would have given up.

I can say that I had an awesome lactation consultant and friends and family that knew I was committed to bfing my kids if at all possible.  In our classes before my first was born, the LC said if you don&#039;t have support and others tell you to give up, you will give up if it gets hard.  She was right.  My husband and mom talked to me in the middle of the night when I was in severe pain.   My boss let me pump whenever I needed to to relieve the soreness and be okay - and yes, he was a dude! My sisters thought I was crazy but they too always reminded me that I wanted to do this.  Everyone said if I was really having too hard a time they would understand, given the complications but like you Catherine, this made me more determined!

And I did it.  

I do not judge people who do not do this but for me it was right and it ended up being the most wonderful thing I have ever done.  I adored those moments with my kids and I was, I will admit, SUPER proud of myself for sticking with it.

And while I did not judge - I felt judged and I felt anger coming from some of my friends and colleagues who did not breastfeed.  Am I crazy?  I don&#039;t think so.  If I breastfeed it is my choice, just like bottle feeding is a choice.  I used a nursing cover when I was a around people who were uncomfortable even though I feel no need to.  I tried to be as sensitive as possible.  But still, I was told over and over that formula is just as good, that breastfeeding in public is strange, that breastfeeding is fine when it comes to you easy but that a LOT of women just can&#039;t and it makes them uncomfortable to talk about or see breastfeeding.  

Others have said it but there needs to be additional sensitivity on both sides.  If I breastfeed, people can disagree but I should be able to feed my baby whenever I need to and not shove myself in a bathroom or in my car to make other people uncomfortable.  They are uncomfortable because it is still not really accepted in many places.  I also should be able to say I breastfeed and tell people when they ask, which they do, why I made that choice, without people thinking I am judging them for making a different one.  I am not - I am just being honest about my own experience.  I will be sensitive of your experience too.  I will not judge.  But let&#039;s let people be themselves and not shove breastfeeding mothers in closet because of people&#039;s discomfort with the issue.

I agree with Jennifer - we just can&#039;t get a break!

Whew - that was a vent.  Great post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so torn on this because I am a huge fan of giving the boob when possible and when it is good for the mom and the baby.  I had a terrible time for the first 2-3months breastfeeding both of my babies with severe hyperlactation.  It caused my kids to have an impossible time latching on because they would basically drown in the milk that was spraying them and caused me to have mastitis at least 5 times with each of them.  Whole boob swollen, fever, chills &#8211; yep!  Oh and thrush where you have fungus there&#8230;nasty.  Oh and I had to weigh them each at every feeding for the first month plus to make sure that the milk was going in them and not on them.</p>
<p>Without support I would have given up.</p>
<p>I can say that I had an awesome lactation consultant and friends and family that knew I was committed to bfing my kids if at all possible.  In our classes before my first was born, the LC said if you don&#8217;t have support and others tell you to give up, you will give up if it gets hard.  She was right.  My husband and mom talked to me in the middle of the night when I was in severe pain.   My boss let me pump whenever I needed to to relieve the soreness and be okay &#8211; and yes, he was a dude! My sisters thought I was crazy but they too always reminded me that I wanted to do this.  Everyone said if I was really having too hard a time they would understand, given the complications but like you Catherine, this made me more determined!</p>
<p>And I did it.  </p>
<p>I do not judge people who do not do this but for me it was right and it ended up being the most wonderful thing I have ever done.  I adored those moments with my kids and I was, I will admit, SUPER proud of myself for sticking with it.</p>
<p>And while I did not judge &#8211; I felt judged and I felt anger coming from some of my friends and colleagues who did not breastfeed.  Am I crazy?  I don&#8217;t think so.  If I breastfeed it is my choice, just like bottle feeding is a choice.  I used a nursing cover when I was a around people who were uncomfortable even though I feel no need to.  I tried to be as sensitive as possible.  But still, I was told over and over that formula is just as good, that breastfeeding in public is strange, that breastfeeding is fine when it comes to you easy but that a LOT of women just can&#8217;t and it makes them uncomfortable to talk about or see breastfeeding.  </p>
<p>Others have said it but there needs to be additional sensitivity on both sides.  If I breastfeed, people can disagree but I should be able to feed my baby whenever I need to and not shove myself in a bathroom or in my car to make other people uncomfortable.  They are uncomfortable because it is still not really accepted in many places.  I also should be able to say I breastfeed and tell people when they ask, which they do, why I made that choice, without people thinking I am judging them for making a different one.  I am not &#8211; I am just being honest about my own experience.  I will be sensitive of your experience too.  I will not judge.  But let&#8217;s let people be themselves and not shove breastfeeding mothers in closet because of people&#8217;s discomfort with the issue.</p>
<p>I agree with Jennifer &#8211; we just can&#8217;t get a break!</p>
<p>Whew &#8211; that was a vent.  Great post!</p>
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		<title>By: Brittany at Mommy Words</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brittany at Mommy Words</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jen I too am stuck in this conundrum.  My husband wants to shoot me I talk about it so much.  I think and dream about it!  I run myself in circles...and I too, am not an asshole. I am going to post in the comments but I wanted you to know I get you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jen I too am stuck in this conundrum.  My husband wants to shoot me I talk about it so much.  I think and dream about it!  I run myself in circles&#8230;and I too, am not an asshole. I am going to post in the comments but I wanted you to know I get you!</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 03:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did breastfeed both my kids with formula supplementation.  And I got responses that breastfeeding was gross, sexual and nasty all the way to giving my kids formula was like feeding them arsenic in a baby bottle.  It did not help the hospital I had my kids at was shoving breast feeding down my throat and I was a bad mom if I didn&#039;t do it.
My daughter refused to latch so I pumped (and had to supplement) for 6 months when I had enough (and my boss was complaining about the break I took every day).  My SIL threw out a bottle when she found out it had breastmilk.  My MIL delighted in telling me how much formula my daughter had in a day and my milk could not sustain her.  I had said that if my son did not latch, I would not even go through what I had.  He did latch, but it was not enought so I supplemented for 6 months and thrown in the towel.  My inlaws were repulsed I breastfed (they formula fed, why would I chose to ruin my breasts?) while my family was repulsed I gave him ANY formula(They breastfed with almost no supplementation, why couldn&#039;t I do it?)
My kids are healthy and happy and normal weights.  They have asthma that has gotten better as they are getting older, but so does their mom and dad.
We moms cannot get a break no matter how well our kids are doing or have done.
.-= Jennifer A&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ToastOnTheCeiling/~3/A1M4dvN124A/santa-may-lose-her-mind-before-holidays.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Santa* may lose her mind before the holidays&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did breastfeed both my kids with formula supplementation.  And I got responses that breastfeeding was gross, sexual and nasty all the way to giving my kids formula was like feeding them arsenic in a baby bottle.  It did not help the hospital I had my kids at was shoving breast feeding down my throat and I was a bad mom if I didn&#8217;t do it.<br />
My daughter refused to latch so I pumped (and had to supplement) for 6 months when I had enough (and my boss was complaining about the break I took every day).  My SIL threw out a bottle when she found out it had breastmilk.  My MIL delighted in telling me how much formula my daughter had in a day and my milk could not sustain her.  I had said that if my son did not latch, I would not even go through what I had.  He did latch, but it was not enought so I supplemented for 6 months and thrown in the towel.  My inlaws were repulsed I breastfed (they formula fed, why would I chose to ruin my breasts?) while my family was repulsed I gave him ANY formula(They breastfed with almost no supplementation, why couldn&#8217;t I do it?)<br />
My kids are healthy and happy and normal weights.  They have asthma that has gotten better as they are getting older, but so does their mom and dad.<br />
We moms cannot get a break no matter how well our kids are doing or have done.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Jennifer A&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ToastOnTheCeiling/~3/A1M4dvN124A/santa-may-lose-her-mind-before-holidays.html" rel="nofollow">Santa* may lose her mind before the holidays</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://herbadmother.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Kristen</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was right were you were 4.5 years ago when I was pregnant with my first daughter.  Before she was born I planned on trying to breastfeed but, like you, was completely squimish about it. The whole thing. 

I made the decision to formula feed when the nurse wanted my family to leave the hospital room shortly after I delivered so that I could feed her.  I KNEW right then &amp; there that it wasn&#039;t for me.  Decided to formula feed &amp; never looked back.  

I don&#039;t have a &quot;good&quot; reason for not breastfeeding, and I don&#039;t care who judges me for it.  My daughter is happy, healthy (very healthy) &amp; smart and most of all loved.  The last of those the most important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was right were you were 4.5 years ago when I was pregnant with my first daughter.  Before she was born I planned on trying to breastfeed but, like you, was completely squimish about it. The whole thing. </p>
<p>I made the decision to formula feed when the nurse wanted my family to leave the hospital room shortly after I delivered so that I could feed her.  I KNEW right then &amp; there that it wasn&#8217;t for me.  Decided to formula feed &amp; never looked back.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a &#8220;good&#8221; reason for not breastfeeding, and I don&#8217;t care who judges me for it.  My daughter is happy, healthy (very healthy) &amp; smart and most of all loved.  The last of those the most important.</p>
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		<title>By: whatever your feelings&#8230;it&#8217;s ok &#171; Elan Doula</title>
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		<dc:creator>whatever your feelings&#8230;it&#8217;s ok &#171; Elan Doula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 05:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi-I live in Australia and its an issue there too. I&#039;m so glad you raised it.

I became really ill with some severe postnatal mood disorders right after the birth. Because of the new brain chemistry altering effects of my milk, and my need for uninterupted sleep, I had to tearfully give up breastfeeding, which I&#039;d ironically taken to like a duck to water.

Finding information about about which formula is best is next to impossible. All I run into is &quot;breast is best&quot; and &quot;all formula is second rate&quot;. We&#039;re intelligent women-if Choice Magazine can find significant differences between dishwasher powders, you can bet your life they can find them between formula brands. But I&#039;ll never know, because of the mantra we&#039;re all afraid to stop muttering to each other.

If it weren&#039;t for the fact that I was formula feed myself on even more inadequate 1970&#039;s formula and went on to get a law degree and represent my state in tennis, I might actually start to believe formula is poison and be guilt tripped by the experts. But it&#039;s not. It&#039;s not plan A and never should be. But as far as a plan B goes, it&#039;s far preferable to dead or brain damaged babies (which is what I would have had without it). If you look at it that way, your head stops hurting real fast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi-I live in Australia and its an issue there too. I&#8217;m so glad you raised it.</p>
<p>I became really ill with some severe postnatal mood disorders right after the birth. Because of the new brain chemistry altering effects of my milk, and my need for uninterupted sleep, I had to tearfully give up breastfeeding, which I&#8217;d ironically taken to like a duck to water.</p>
<p>Finding information about about which formula is best is next to impossible. All I run into is &#8220;breast is best&#8221; and &#8220;all formula is second rate&#8221;. We&#8217;re intelligent women-if Choice Magazine can find significant differences between dishwasher powders, you can bet your life they can find them between formula brands. But I&#8217;ll never know, because of the mantra we&#8217;re all afraid to stop muttering to each other.</p>
<p>If it weren&#8217;t for the fact that I was formula feed myself on even more inadequate 1970&#8217;s formula and went on to get a law degree and represent my state in tennis, I might actually start to believe formula is poison and be guilt tripped by the experts. But it&#8217;s not. It&#8217;s not plan A and never should be. But as far as a plan B goes, it&#8217;s far preferable to dead or brain damaged babies (which is what I would have had without it). If you look at it that way, your head stops hurting real fast.</p>
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		<title>By: Vicky</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 01:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My son had respitory issues at birth and I had &#039;what the hell just happened&#039; issues after he was born.  He ended up staying in NICU for a week and I went home in a daze.  I tried to pump and nothing, literally nothing came out so I stopped.  I decided that I would be better off being rested for when he finally came home.  My real disappointment about not breastfeeding was that it was going to be really hard to lose the 70lbs I gained. But man, I felt guilty because I was a &#039;bad&#039; mother.  
I didn&#039;t even attempt to breastfeed my daughter and again, the guilt was there.  But my daughter had colic.  Bottle feeding allowed me to collect my thoughts while someone else fed her because there were days when I was curled up on my couch crying and thinking it was never going to get better.
My son rarely gets sick, has a fabulous memory and an amazing smile.  My daughter is 2.5.  She has never been sick other than a mild cold.  She is smart, full of personality and active.
A few of my friends who breastfed have kids that are sick every couple of months - ear infections, stomach flu.  So while the studies say kids who are breastfed are healthier, well, here I am saying that my kids are healthier than others and they were formula fed.
Some kids walk at 10 months, others at 16 months.  Some kids talk early, some are late.  I don&#039;t want my &#039;claim to fame&#039; to be that my kids were breastfed.  
I assume that if breast is best all criminals were formula fed because obviously breastfed babies would never commit crimes.
The older I get, the older my kids get, the more I realize it doesn&#039;t matter.  I had my children vaginally and would never ever think I am a better mother for that.  
There was a study released that said babies born to mothers who suffered morning sickness have higher i.q.s than mothers who didn&#039;t have morning sickness.  &#039;Sickness is best&#039;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My son had respitory issues at birth and I had &#8216;what the hell just happened&#8217; issues after he was born.  He ended up staying in NICU for a week and I went home in a daze.  I tried to pump and nothing, literally nothing came out so I stopped.  I decided that I would be better off being rested for when he finally came home.  My real disappointment about not breastfeeding was that it was going to be really hard to lose the 70lbs I gained. But man, I felt guilty because I was a &#8216;bad&#8217; mother.<br />
I didn&#8217;t even attempt to breastfeed my daughter and again, the guilt was there.  But my daughter had colic.  Bottle feeding allowed me to collect my thoughts while someone else fed her because there were days when I was curled up on my couch crying and thinking it was never going to get better.<br />
My son rarely gets sick, has a fabulous memory and an amazing smile.  My daughter is 2.5.  She has never been sick other than a mild cold.  She is smart, full of personality and active.<br />
A few of my friends who breastfed have kids that are sick every couple of months &#8211; ear infections, stomach flu.  So while the studies say kids who are breastfed are healthier, well, here I am saying that my kids are healthier than others and they were formula fed.<br />
Some kids walk at 10 months, others at 16 months.  Some kids talk early, some are late.  I don&#8217;t want my &#8216;claim to fame&#8217; to be that my kids were breastfed.<br />
I assume that if breast is best all criminals were formula fed because obviously breastfed babies would never commit crimes.<br />
The older I get, the older my kids get, the more I realize it doesn&#8217;t matter.  I had my children vaginally and would never ever think I am a better mother for that.<br />
There was a study released that said babies born to mothers who suffered morning sickness have higher i.q.s than mothers who didn&#8217;t have morning sickness.  &#8216;Sickness is best&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: Jessi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 20:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please, make formula a prescription, then my freakin&#039; insurance will chip in on it. this is the most ridiculous thing I&#039;ve ever heard. How about this? How about we make mothers stand in the town square and defend every choice they&#039;ve ever made. We&#039;ll assign letters. I&#039;ll wear a red F for Formula.
.-= Jessi&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://jessisscatteredmind.blogspot.com/2009/10/breast-debate-ever.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Breast Debate Ever&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please, make formula a prescription, then my freakin&#8217; insurance will chip in on it. this is the most ridiculous thing I&#8217;ve ever heard. How about this? How about we make mothers stand in the town square and defend every choice they&#8217;ve ever made. We&#8217;ll assign letters. I&#8217;ll wear a red F for Formula.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Jessi&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://jessisscatteredmind.blogspot.com/2009/10/breast-debate-ever.html" rel="nofollow">The Breast Debate Ever</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://herbadmother.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Bonne Vie - Wholestyle on the Web: Week of 10/09/2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonne Vie - Wholestyle on the Web: Week of 10/09/2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 20:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jessi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for that article. I had long noticed the small differences and contradictions in medical studies, but assumed I was missing something as no one else seemed to see them.
.-= Jessi&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://jessisscatteredmind.blogspot.com/2009/10/breast-debate-ever.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Breast Debate Ever&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for that article. I had long noticed the small differences and contradictions in medical studies, but assumed I was missing something as no one else seemed to see them.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Jessi&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://jessisscatteredmind.blogspot.com/2009/10/breast-debate-ever.html" rel="nofollow">The Breast Debate Ever</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://herbadmother.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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