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		<title>By: watercolor</title>
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		<dc:creator>watercolor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay.  The post wasn&#039;t clear about that to me.  Yeah, I don&#039;t especially like the ones with kids.  Even the specials about &quot;Mermaid Girl&quot; and &quot;the World&#039;s Smallest Girl&quot; rankle me.   On one hand, it gets their rare disorders some badly needed attention.  As someone with a rare illness, I completely understand that need.  On the other hand, oy vey, these sweet kids are on tv relentlessly with special after special.  Ick.
.-= watercolor&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://washesofcolor.blogspot.com/2009/10/body-want-walk-head-want-nap.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Body want walk.  Head want nap.&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay.  The post wasn&#8217;t clear about that to me.  Yeah, I don&#8217;t especially like the ones with kids.  Even the specials about &#8220;Mermaid Girl&#8221; and &#8220;the World&#8217;s Smallest Girl&#8221; rankle me.   On one hand, it gets their rare disorders some badly needed attention.  As someone with a rare illness, I completely understand that need.  On the other hand, oy vey, these sweet kids are on tv relentlessly with special after special.  Ick.<br />
<span class="cluv"> watercolor&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://washesofcolor.blogspot.com/2009/10/body-want-walk-head-want-nap.html" rel="nofollow">Body want walk.  Head want nap.</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://herbadmother.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: driver36</title>
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		<dc:creator>driver36</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wanted to be famous. ,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to be famous. ,</p>
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		<title>By: All The Blogs A Stage &#124; Her Bad Mother</title>
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		<dc:creator>All The Blogs A Stage &#124; Her Bad Mother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It started as a discussion about Ballo0n Boy and reality television and the corruptive effects of the pursuit of fame and whether children should ever be compelled to live their lives as performances, the better to line the pockets of the entertainment industry, but it became a discussion about whether writers &#8211; memoirists, bloggers, whomever &#8211; who deal in family anecdote can be said to be guilty of the very sins that we deplore in the Gosselins or the Heenes or the Duggars or whatever slimy, child-eating producer we imagine lurks in the offices of TLC. In writing about our children, some of you asked, are we guilty of the same kind of exploitation (if, in fact, we can call televising the lives of children for profit &#8216;exploitation,&#8217; which I think we can), the same kind of troubling opportunism that is displayed by the Gosselins and the Heenes and the parents of Toddlers wearing Tiaras? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It started as a discussion about Ballo0n Boy and reality television and the corruptive effects of the pursuit of fame and whether children should ever be compelled to live their lives as performances, the better to line the pockets of the entertainment industry, but it became a discussion about whether writers &#8211; memoirists, bloggers, whomever &#8211; who deal in family anecdote can be said to be guilty of the very sins that we deplore in the Gosselins or the Heenes or the Duggars or whatever slimy, child-eating producer we imagine lurks in the offices of TLC. In writing about our children, some of you asked, are we guilty of the same kind of exploitation (if, in fact, we can call televising the lives of children for profit &#8216;exploitation,&#8217; which I think we can), the same kind of troubling opportunism that is displayed by the Gosselins and the Heenes and the parents of Toddlers wearing Tiaras? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: avsgirl</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 03:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heene Family: Fame called. Your 15 minutes are up! Try living in Colorado where this all took place...I think he got his reality show on the 9 o&#039;clock news! I agree. Enough already.
.-= avsgirl&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://got2havefaith.wordpress.com/2009/10/20/hey-henne-family/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;hey henne family:&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heene Family: Fame called. Your 15 minutes are up! Try living in Colorado where this all took place&#8230;I think he got his reality show on the 9 o&#8217;clock news! I agree. Enough already.<br />
<span class="cluv"> avsgirl&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://got2havefaith.wordpress.com/2009/10/20/hey-henne-family/" rel="nofollow">hey henne family:</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://herbadmother.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Albiana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Albiana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I so whole-heartedly agree, Reality Shows are anything but REALITY.

There has to be some long-term detrimental effects for the children on these shows.  If by watching these things viewers aren&#039;t complict in the harm it causes, we certainly bear witness to the poor characters of the parents who would subject their kids to this intrusive and unwelcomed disclosure of their privacy.

If nothing else, we can cite the various negative outcomes experienced by childhood movie and television stars who went on to struggle in their later years with self-worth, drug and alcohol abuse, criminal behavior, and....oddly enough...warped senses of reality for their experience.

Life is not a television show.  Life is hard enough without the pressures and demands of invasive media and the Alice In Wonderland warped views provided by melodrama for the cameras and hyper-dialogue that doesn&#039;t coincide with the normalcy of childhood and adolescence.

If we think the false sense of entitlement is bad in the average teen, wait until we see what these poor &quot;childhood reality stars&quot; end up like.

Might as well fingerprint them now.  We can take the mug shots in a few years when they&#039;re hauled in for questioning by the police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I so whole-heartedly agree, Reality Shows are anything but REALITY.</p>
<p>There has to be some long-term detrimental effects for the children on these shows.  If by watching these things viewers aren&#8217;t complict in the harm it causes, we certainly bear witness to the poor characters of the parents who would subject their kids to this intrusive and unwelcomed disclosure of their privacy.</p>
<p>If nothing else, we can cite the various negative outcomes experienced by childhood movie and television stars who went on to struggle in their later years with self-worth, drug and alcohol abuse, criminal behavior, and&#8230;.oddly enough&#8230;warped senses of reality for their experience.</p>
<p>Life is not a television show.  Life is hard enough without the pressures and demands of invasive media and the Alice In Wonderland warped views provided by melodrama for the cameras and hyper-dialogue that doesn&#8217;t coincide with the normalcy of childhood and adolescence.</p>
<p>If we think the false sense of entitlement is bad in the average teen, wait until we see what these poor &#8220;childhood reality stars&#8221; end up like.</p>
<p>Might as well fingerprint them now.  We can take the mug shots in a few years when they&#8217;re hauled in for questioning by the police.</p>
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		<title>By: frugan amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>frugan amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 07:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Catherine, for yet another smart, thought-provoking post. Rousseau and reality TV...swoon.

I think that the distinction you make in your &quot;Crazy Narcissistic...&quot; post is key to whether a &quot;mommy-blog&quot; can be exploitative of children. Like you, I see my blog as about me and my experience of motherhood. I am not attempting to tell my daughter&#039;s story; I&#039;m telling my own. That is how I justify giving my 8-month-old an online presence, at least. 

Still, though, I worry. Even if we aren&#039;t making our children perform, own performance here must have an effect on them. It brings up the obvious question: at what point does the desire to post cause us to experience our real life as fodder for blogging? And, even more frightening, how often do we ever-so-subtly construct our reality to give us that better post?

I think this is an issue all bloggers - all writers - have, but it strikes me as more serious for mommy-bloggers, especially when we&#039;re anecdotal. What happens when I&#039;m cradling or playing with my baby and the thought comes to me, &quot;I should write about the way I&#039;m feeling right now&quot;? I don&#039;t think my small performance is damaging her for life, but I am concerned it&#039;s not always fair to her in the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Catherine, for yet another smart, thought-provoking post. Rousseau and reality TV&#8230;swoon.</p>
<p>I think that the distinction you make in your &#8220;Crazy Narcissistic&#8230;&#8221; post is key to whether a &#8220;mommy-blog&#8221; can be exploitative of children. Like you, I see my blog as about me and my experience of motherhood. I am not attempting to tell my daughter&#8217;s story; I&#8217;m telling my own. That is how I justify giving my 8-month-old an online presence, at least. </p>
<p>Still, though, I worry. Even if we aren&#8217;t making our children perform, own performance here must have an effect on them. It brings up the obvious question: at what point does the desire to post cause us to experience our real life as fodder for blogging? And, even more frightening, how often do we ever-so-subtly construct our reality to give us that better post?</p>
<p>I think this is an issue all bloggers &#8211; all writers &#8211; have, but it strikes me as more serious for mommy-bloggers, especially when we&#8217;re anecdotal. What happens when I&#8217;m cradling or playing with my baby and the thought comes to me, &#8220;I should write about the way I&#8217;m feeling right now&#8221;? I don&#8217;t think my small performance is damaging her for life, but I am concerned it&#8217;s not always fair to her in the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: T. Stone</title>
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		<dc:creator>T. Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 06:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen brotha!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen brotha!!</p>
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		<title>By: Her Bad Mother</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, do NOT even get me started on the pageants - or the pageant SHOWS. Toddlers and Tiaras? PURE EVIL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, do NOT even get me started on the pageants &#8211; or the pageant SHOWS. Toddlers and Tiaras? PURE EVIL.</p>
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		<title>By: Her Bad Mother</title>
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		<dc:creator>Her Bad Mother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote about it around the time that he was born - I can&#039;t, of course, find that post now ;)

Basically, my reasoning was this - I&#039;m not anonymous, far from it. I&#039;m published online and off and anyone who knows my name can find me and my work. And so anyone who knows my children will find my work. Using their first names - or not - doesn&#039;t really change that. And the pseudonyms, in a way, were feeling silly and contrived, and end of the day, whenever Emilia or her friends look at the stories I&#039;ve told, I&#039;d rather that they find *her*, and not an eternal Wonderbaby.

And - it keeps me honest. I&#039;m more careful, I think, because she&#039;s less of a constructed character to me if I use her (and his) name. They *are* characters - but I might be tempted to take more license if they were just Wonderbaby and Sprout rather than Emilia and Jasper.

(Their last names? Much harder to find out. We don&#039;t share a surname - that is, my professional name is not their surname. And My husband keeps his on the downlow, so. Future friends googling their full names will not find this content. For whatever that&#039;s worth.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote about it around the time that he was born &#8211; I can&#8217;t, of course, find that post now <img src='http://herbadmother.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Basically, my reasoning was this &#8211; I&#8217;m not anonymous, far from it. I&#8217;m published online and off and anyone who knows my name can find me and my work. And so anyone who knows my children will find my work. Using their first names &#8211; or not &#8211; doesn&#8217;t really change that. And the pseudonyms, in a way, were feeling silly and contrived, and end of the day, whenever Emilia or her friends look at the stories I&#8217;ve told, I&#8217;d rather that they find *her*, and not an eternal Wonderbaby.</p>
<p>And &#8211; it keeps me honest. I&#8217;m more careful, I think, because she&#8217;s less of a constructed character to me if I use her (and his) name. They *are* characters &#8211; but I might be tempted to take more license if they were just Wonderbaby and Sprout rather than Emilia and Jasper.</p>
<p>(Their last names? Much harder to find out. We don&#8217;t share a surname &#8211; that is, my professional name is not their surname. And My husband keeps his on the downlow, so. Future friends googling their full names will not find this content. For whatever that&#8217;s worth.)</p>
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		<title>By: Her Bad Mother</title>
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		<dc:creator>Her Bad Mother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it matters whether the &#039;performed&#039; lives are real or not so real or whatever - what matters is that they&#039;re being sold as real. And for kids - the premise that they&#039;re not working (such that child labor laws don&#039;t apply) is based on the idea that they&#039;re &#039;really&#039; &#039;living&#039; in front of the cameras. Performing as a matter of daily life. 

Either way: UGH.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it matters whether the &#8216;performed&#8217; lives are real or not so real or whatever &#8211; what matters is that they&#8217;re being sold as real. And for kids &#8211; the premise that they&#8217;re not working (such that child labor laws don&#8217;t apply) is based on the idea that they&#8217;re &#8216;really&#8217; &#8216;living&#8217; in front of the cameras. Performing as a matter of daily life. </p>
<p>Either way: UGH.</p>
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